From Asheville Citizen Times
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Man gets 27 years in Buncombe Internet child sex sting
This time, they got their man.
A suspect cleared in the disappearance of a woman 12 years ago was sentenced Friday to nearly 27 years in federal prison for using the Internet to entice someone he thought was a Buncombe County girl to meet him for sex.
Andrew Douglas Dalzell, 33, pleaded guilty to the crime in U.S. District Court in Asheville.
Judge Martin Reidinger ruled he had to take Dalzell's confession to the 1997 slaying of Deborah Key into account in the sentencing even though a murder charge was thrown out when a state court judge ruled the confession was inadmissible.
Buncombe County sheriff's deputies charged Dalzell in February 2007 with solicitation of a child by computer after he initiated explicit chats with an undercover officer posing as an 11-year-old girl. Dalzell was arrested after he drove from Gastonia to the Asheville area to meet the girl.
Reidinger said he hoped the stiff sentence would serve as a deterrent to other potential child sex offenders.
“That's the sort of behavior that this society cannot tolerate,” he said.
Dalzell sobbed as he apologized for this crime.
“I made an extraordinarily bad judgment,” he said. “I am not a bad person. I love my mother, I love my wife, I love my baby. Being away from them hurts.”
A judge in Orange County threw out a 2004 murder charge against Dalzell after finding police fabricated an arrest warrant to pressure him into a confession.
Police said Dalzell was last seen with Key at a Carrboro pool hall just before her disappearance. Investigators in Carrboro never found a body or other physical evidence linking Dalzell to Key's disappearance, but in 2004 they saw a chance at a confession, Carrboro police Lt. John Lau said.
The opportunity arose after Dalzell asked officers for protection as he moved out of his Carrboro residence because he was afraid of being attacked by a local drug dealer, Lau said.
Officers spotted stolen property during the move, and detectives had also obtained what they said was evidence of him trying to solicit a minor girl to come live with him and his girlfriend, Lau said.
When Dalzell was arrested on larceny and solicitation charges, he was shown a fake arrest warrant charging him with murder, which prompted a confession.
“One and a half minutes into interview, he gave it up and admitted he strangled her,” Lau said.
In 2005, Orange County Superior Court Judge Wade Barber threw out the murder charge. Barber said officers “fabricated official court documents,” used deception and should have immediately informed Dalzell why he was being arrested.
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100327/NEWS/303270031/&template=artiphone
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Joy and I have been interviewed today by Beth Velliquette with the Chapel Hill Herald about this, who has written several news articles before about Debbie Key.
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CORRECTION - It was February 2009 (not 2007) when Dalzell was arrested in Buncombe County.
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UPDATE - March 30
http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_story/6880682/article-Former-slaying-suspect-sentenced-in-child-solicitation?instance=main_article
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UPDATE - April 3
This story in 'Who Killed Theresa?'
http://theresaallore.com/2010/04/andrew-dalzell-they-finally-got-that-fcker/
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Monday, March 29, 2010
Wednesday, January 06, 2010
Top Stories of 2009
I thought this would be a good way to start for January 2010.
May I present NC Wanted's Top 9 stories of 2009.
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/6736970/
You know, it really makes me feel good that the arrest of Andrew Dalzell is included in this list, along with the news stories of Kelly Morris, Shaniya Davis, and Jason Young.
I'd like to take this opportunity now to say that of all the news teams I've had the pleasure of contacting, NC Wanted has been the most supportive. Thanks again, you guys!
This year, I look forward to (finally!) blogging the murder trial of Eve Carson, which has been delayed so many times it's outrageous.
I keep thinking about how the killer of Anne Pressly of Little Rock, Arkansas, was tried and convicted less than a year (but close to it) after he was arrested. Perhaps NC should follow Arkansas's example. They don't mess around when it comes to murder. The trial lasted two weeks.
I have recently been contacted by News 14 Carolina, in Wilmington, NC, about Debbie Key. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
Special thanks to Monica Caison with the CUE Center for Missing Persons.
Here's hoping for a better year to come!
May I present NC Wanted's Top 9 stories of 2009.
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/6736970/
You know, it really makes me feel good that the arrest of Andrew Dalzell is included in this list, along with the news stories of Kelly Morris, Shaniya Davis, and Jason Young.
I'd like to take this opportunity now to say that of all the news teams I've had the pleasure of contacting, NC Wanted has been the most supportive. Thanks again, you guys!
This year, I look forward to (finally!) blogging the murder trial of Eve Carson, which has been delayed so many times it's outrageous.
I keep thinking about how the killer of Anne Pressly of Little Rock, Arkansas, was tried and convicted less than a year (but close to it) after he was arrested. Perhaps NC should follow Arkansas's example. They don't mess around when it comes to murder. The trial lasted two weeks.
I have recently been contacted by News 14 Carolina, in Wilmington, NC, about Debbie Key. I'll let everyone know how it goes.
Special thanks to Monica Caison with the CUE Center for Missing Persons.
Here's hoping for a better year to come!
Monday, November 02, 2009
Beyond This Place
My favorite story about what happened to Debbie Key is "Bad Dream House" by John Allore. During our Halloween weekend I have learned that John had written a sequel to the story. It is called "Beyond This Place," and the first chapter now appears in his WKT? blog.
http://theresaallore.com/?bloggerURL=/.com/
Below is a sample of the first chapter, edited by me.
(...) indicates where I left out sentences.
(You don't have to tell me I'm biased because I already know that, but I also want to make it shorter for this post)
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I live in a house once inhabited by a psychopath. (...) Each day there are a dozen little things reminding me that Deborah Key – the young woman who was most likely murdered by the former owner of our home – is still missing. Working in the garden, I’ll unearth some artifact belonging to the former owners. Inevitably, it will be some weapon or instrument of torture – an arrow, a spear, the broken blade from a sword. One time I found a gigantic hunting knife with brown stains on the blade. (...) Another time I found the remains of a dismembered Barbie doll.
Last year my wife started a business; a children’s resale shop in downtown Carrboro. Carrboro is a little bedroom community of Chapel Hill in North Carolina. My wife’s shop is cute. She has a lot of nice stuff. (...) As fate would have it, my wife rented the space where the bar Sticks and Stones was formerly located. The same Sticks and Stones where Deborah Key was last seen alive. Every day after work I pull into the parking lot to pick up the kids. I always park in the spot where Deborah was last seen kissing Andrew Dalzell against the hood of her car. Deborah’s mother placed a small memorial on the spot with flowers and a plaque. It’s nice that it’s there to remind me. Just in case I forgot.
Not long ago I got another call from our local police. Deborah Key’s body still had not been recovered. Chief Henderson wanted to return and search our property. This time they weren’t bringing a cadaver dog; they were bringing a psychic.
I don’t understand this “psychic” business. They always seem to be able to see everything that is totally extraneous. They do everything but the one thing police ask them to do: solve the crime. (...)
“She had a vision that Deborah’s body was in a place with woods and a lake.”
(...) That was the thing, it wasn’t a gimmick; my friend had done it. It was amazing. She had a conversation through the medium with her dead relatives. It was creepy. There were details this medium knew about my friend’s life that only people who had “passed” could have known – little pieces of knowledge that no one could find through deception. My friend came to a conclusion. Either the medium was really a psychic and she was reading your mind; or it was for real, and she talked to the dead. My friend suggested I arrange for a consultation with my sister. The medium charged two hundred dollars an hour. I said I’d think about it.
On the weekend I phone my parents and ask them about the medium. They say, why not? I talk with my brother. He can’t think of a reason not to do it either. Curious. I was hoping one of them would stop me. At Barnes & Noble I “inadvertently” wind up in front of the New Age section. My medium’s staring at me from the cover of her book. What’s going on here?
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IN OTHER NEWS:
Today is the day the trial begins for Curtis Lavelle Vance, who last year murdered TV news anchor Anne Pressly in Little Rock, Arkansas. I plan to keep up with this case.
Here is some more news on the prison release issue.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6304543/
Tomorrow will be the 31-year anniversary of the murder of Theresa Allore - November 3, 1978.
Also on this day, 3 years ago, Michelle Young was killed near Raleigh, NC - November 3, 2006.
http://theresaallore.com/?bloggerURL=/.com/
Below is a sample of the first chapter, edited by me.
(...) indicates where I left out sentences.
(You don't have to tell me I'm biased because I already know that, but I also want to make it shorter for this post)
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I live in a house once inhabited by a psychopath. (...) Each day there are a dozen little things reminding me that Deborah Key – the young woman who was most likely murdered by the former owner of our home – is still missing. Working in the garden, I’ll unearth some artifact belonging to the former owners. Inevitably, it will be some weapon or instrument of torture – an arrow, a spear, the broken blade from a sword. One time I found a gigantic hunting knife with brown stains on the blade. (...) Another time I found the remains of a dismembered Barbie doll.
Last year my wife started a business; a children’s resale shop in downtown Carrboro. Carrboro is a little bedroom community of Chapel Hill in North Carolina. My wife’s shop is cute. She has a lot of nice stuff. (...) As fate would have it, my wife rented the space where the bar Sticks and Stones was formerly located. The same Sticks and Stones where Deborah Key was last seen alive. Every day after work I pull into the parking lot to pick up the kids. I always park in the spot where Deborah was last seen kissing Andrew Dalzell against the hood of her car. Deborah’s mother placed a small memorial on the spot with flowers and a plaque. It’s nice that it’s there to remind me. Just in case I forgot.
Not long ago I got another call from our local police. Deborah Key’s body still had not been recovered. Chief Henderson wanted to return and search our property. This time they weren’t bringing a cadaver dog; they were bringing a psychic.
I don’t understand this “psychic” business. They always seem to be able to see everything that is totally extraneous. They do everything but the one thing police ask them to do: solve the crime. (...)
“She had a vision that Deborah’s body was in a place with woods and a lake.”
(...) That was the thing, it wasn’t a gimmick; my friend had done it. It was amazing. She had a conversation through the medium with her dead relatives. It was creepy. There were details this medium knew about my friend’s life that only people who had “passed” could have known – little pieces of knowledge that no one could find through deception. My friend came to a conclusion. Either the medium was really a psychic and she was reading your mind; or it was for real, and she talked to the dead. My friend suggested I arrange for a consultation with my sister. The medium charged two hundred dollars an hour. I said I’d think about it.
On the weekend I phone my parents and ask them about the medium. They say, why not? I talk with my brother. He can’t think of a reason not to do it either. Curious. I was hoping one of them would stop me. At Barnes & Noble I “inadvertently” wind up in front of the New Age section. My medium’s staring at me from the cover of her book. What’s going on here?
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IN OTHER NEWS:
Today is the day the trial begins for Curtis Lavelle Vance, who last year murdered TV news anchor Anne Pressly in Little Rock, Arkansas. I plan to keep up with this case.
Here is some more news on the prison release issue.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6304543/
Tomorrow will be the 31-year anniversary of the murder of Theresa Allore - November 3, 1978.
Also on this day, 3 years ago, Michelle Young was killed near Raleigh, NC - November 3, 2006.
Saturday, May 16, 2009
Dalzell Pleads Guilty
Hey Folks! Sorry I'm late!
Thanks NC Wanted!
What would we do without you?
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/4465792/
Well whatta ya know?
He didn't try to BS his way out of it again.
I wonder why?
Thanks NC Wanted!
What would we do without you?
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/4465792/
Well whatta ya know?
He didn't try to BS his way out of it again.
I wonder why?
Friday, February 06, 2009
Thank You, God!
I promised someone that I would open my next post with the above 3 words. As to who it is I made that promise to, I'll let you guess.
Sometimes it is very hard to believe in God.
Like when someone near and dear to you is taken from you, in a senseless act.
It doesn't help when those who claim to be His followers are such idiots that you try to avoid them.
But sometimes it is very easy to believe in God.
Like when you're sitting at home watching TV and, suddenly and unexpectedly, there's something in the news you were waiting for so long, you forgot you were waiting for it.
Add to it that it was the very next day after the Yarmolenko trial, and my mind begins to wonder if some mysterious forces may be at work.
Andrew Dalzell has been arrested.
We were all waiting for the time he would get in trouble again. It was bound to happen, we all said. (I know I did!) He has always gotten in trouble before, and he will certainly get in trouble again. Getting in trouble is one thing he does well. The day will surely come,
but...
lets hope and pray that when the day comes, the slippery fish doesn't slip through the cracks again.
So I get online, and look at all these messages.
John Allore picked up the story before I did. It certainly wasn't the first time, and likely won't be the last.
A message from Carolyn Hutchison, Carrboro Police Chief.
A reporter named Kevin Ellis with the Gaston Gazette wants me to call him.
Several messages from Joy and other friends, one of them telling me how Joy was "captured" by WRAL News.
My heart is beating fast as I take this all in.
Moisture forms in the corners of my eyes.
Do I dare believe...?
Would Dalzell more likely get a fair trial in Buncombe County than in Orange?
It's hard to argue with that, especially considering that he didn't really get a trial at all in Orange County.
Now that right there is the thing that's messed up the most about it.
Dalzell was the one who should have been on trial, but the Carrboro Police were the ones on trial.
Hey, what's wrong with this picture, Folks?
I mean, weren't the CPD the ones doing everything they could to solve the case?
I have it on good authority that the CPD has made the sincerest efforts. I have always and will always stand by them on their efforts. It was the DA who opposed them in a double-cross that is to blame.
So what was that question again?
Oh yeah,
Will they make it stick next time?
Throw enough of it at the wall, and just maybe...?
One thing I know for sure.
If they slap his wrist and let him go, the public outcry would be downright frightening!
Special thanks also to the Buncombe County Sherrif's Office.
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/county_30091___article.html/dalzell_buncombe.html
http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/4479316/
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Now here's a new link.
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/dalzell_30138___article.html/key_police.html
Sometimes it is very hard to believe in God.
Like when someone near and dear to you is taken from you, in a senseless act.
It doesn't help when those who claim to be His followers are such idiots that you try to avoid them.
But sometimes it is very easy to believe in God.
Like when you're sitting at home watching TV and, suddenly and unexpectedly, there's something in the news you were waiting for so long, you forgot you were waiting for it.
Add to it that it was the very next day after the Yarmolenko trial, and my mind begins to wonder if some mysterious forces may be at work.
Andrew Dalzell has been arrested.
We were all waiting for the time he would get in trouble again. It was bound to happen, we all said. (I know I did!) He has always gotten in trouble before, and he will certainly get in trouble again. Getting in trouble is one thing he does well. The day will surely come,
but...
lets hope and pray that when the day comes, the slippery fish doesn't slip through the cracks again.
So I get online, and look at all these messages.
John Allore picked up the story before I did. It certainly wasn't the first time, and likely won't be the last.
A message from Carolyn Hutchison, Carrboro Police Chief.
A reporter named Kevin Ellis with the Gaston Gazette wants me to call him.
Several messages from Joy and other friends, one of them telling me how Joy was "captured" by WRAL News.
My heart is beating fast as I take this all in.
Moisture forms in the corners of my eyes.
Do I dare believe...?
Would Dalzell more likely get a fair trial in Buncombe County than in Orange?
It's hard to argue with that, especially considering that he didn't really get a trial at all in Orange County.
Now that right there is the thing that's messed up the most about it.
Dalzell was the one who should have been on trial, but the Carrboro Police were the ones on trial.
Hey, what's wrong with this picture, Folks?
I mean, weren't the CPD the ones doing everything they could to solve the case?
I have it on good authority that the CPD has made the sincerest efforts. I have always and will always stand by them on their efforts. It was the DA who opposed them in a double-cross that is to blame.
So what was that question again?
Oh yeah,
Will they make it stick next time?
Throw enough of it at the wall, and just maybe...?
One thing I know for sure.
If they slap his wrist and let him go, the public outcry would be downright frightening!
Special thanks also to the Buncombe County Sherrif's Office.
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/county_30091___article.html/dalzell_buncombe.html
http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/4479316/
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Now here's a new link.
http://www.gastongazette.com/news/dalzell_30138___article.html/key_police.html
Wednesday, February 04, 2009
Dalzell Arrested
Andrew Dalzell was arrested yesterday in Asheville, NC for soliciting a minor online.
Read all about it here:
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/4465792/
and here:
http://whokilledtheresa.blogspot.com/2009/02/andrew-dalzell-arrested-in-child-sex.html
Special thanks to NC Wanted and WRAL News for being the first to call this to our attention.
Read all about it here:
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/4465792/
and here:
http://whokilledtheresa.blogspot.com/2009/02/andrew-dalzell-arrested-in-child-sex.html
Special thanks to NC Wanted and WRAL News for being the first to call this to our attention.
Wednesday, April 23, 2008
Video Now Available
For those who have missed it --
A video of NC Wanted's "The Disappearance of Debbie Key - Part One" is now available on the NC Wanted website. Use link from the links list.
Part Two is on Saturday April 26
A video of NC Wanted's "The Disappearance of Debbie Key - Part One" is now available on the NC Wanted website. Use link from the links list.
Part Two is on Saturday April 26
Friday, April 18, 2008
Message from NC Wanted
-NC WANTED INSIDER-
04/18/2008
Programming Alert: For the next two Saturday nights, see the stunning results of NC WANTED's year-long investigation into Carrboro's unsolved case of Debbie Key. NC WANTED was granted exclusive access to three of the principal figures in this controversial case, including the lead investigator, the former D.A. and the primary suspect.
For anyone who tracks high-profile controversial cases, these next two shows are a must-see.
For more, go to www.ncwanted.com
NC WANTED airs Saturday nights after the 10 O'clock News on FOX50,
and after WRAL's 11 O'clock News on WILM-TV in Wilmington.
CALL 1.866.43.WANTED to Report A Tip, hotline specialists are available day or night
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04/18/2008
Programming Alert: For the next two Saturday nights, see the stunning results of NC WANTED's year-long investigation into Carrboro's unsolved case of Debbie Key. NC WANTED was granted exclusive access to three of the principal figures in this controversial case, including the lead investigator, the former D.A. and the primary suspect.
For anyone who tracks high-profile controversial cases, these next two shows are a must-see.
For more, go to www.ncwanted.com
NC WANTED airs Saturday nights after the 10 O'clock News on FOX50,
and after WRAL's 11 O'clock News on WILM-TV in Wilmington.
CALL 1.866.43.WANTED to Report A Tip, hotline specialists are available day or night
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Sunday, April 13, 2008
Debbie Key on TV
The Debbie Key episode of NC Wanted will be aired next Saturday, April 19.This episode will feature interviews with several friends, music by Storm Front, our candlelight vigil, and, as a special surprise, an interview with our suspect.
Any NC Wanted Alert I have posted will show the times for watching it. Have your VCR ready. We be on TV!
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April 14 - Have just received word from NC Wanted that this will be a two part story.
Monday, June 04, 2007
Bill's Forensic Research.
This week in WRAL News, there's this story about a rather disturbed individual who had disposed of the remains of his ex-girlfriend by using a patio grill. The first question that came to me was, How did he burn the bones?
Local law enforcement says that the body has been completely destroyed, and there's no need for an expensive and exhaustive search of the landfill.
What makes this story particularly interesting to me is that, mere weeks ago, I have done an investigation of my own concering the possibility of finding the body of our dear DK in a landfill, and about burning bones.
In the confession of Dalzell, he says that he had placed the body in a dumpster in Wilmington. I found it curious that, in all the newspaper stories I've read, I have found no mention of an attempt to find the body in Wilmington. So I decided to look into it.
Contacting the Wilmington Police Dept., I have learned that a dumpster in or near the City of Wilmington, when emptied, has its contents taken to a facility north of the city which has a landfill and an incinerater. (On Hwy 421 N)
It has long been believed by some of us that the body of our dear DK has been incinerated with the Wilmington trash.
I have this friend named Vicki who I talk to on my computer often. When I shared with her the information exchanged with the Wilmington Police Dept. (who were very nice, by the way) she told me that bones don't burn in a trash incinerater. Well, at least not like they do in a crematory.
Now this got me going. I found out soon that the temperature inside a crematory is frightenly high (not to mention the energy used!) at around 1600 to 1800 degrees!
I shared this info with John Allore, and he refered me to the Forensic Anthropology Center in Knoxville, Tennessee. I learned lots of interesting things from the website before making e-mail contact. I learn that it is entirely possible that a body in a dumpster can go from the trash truck to the landfill without anyone's detection. (Usually there will be someone standing behind the truck when it dumps.) Anyone who has witnessed a trash truck picking up a dumpster would understand why the driver would never see what's in there.
So maybe we can still find a body in the landfill? I ask about this, and I'm told the search for human remains in a landfill is an astronomicaly daunting task, but it has been done. I am also told how to find student volunteers to help with the undertaking, should I decide to take it on.
But then, John has another interesting piece of information for me.
It is believed by the Carrboro Police that Dalzell was not telling the truth about where he put the body. In his confession, Dalzell was asked if the dumpster he placed the body in had the letters, "BFI" marked on it's side. He said "yes." Both the Carrboro Police and the Wilmington Police confirm that the City of Wilmington does not contract with this sanitation company, and did not during the year of 1997.
They do, however, serve the Chapel Hill and Carrboro area.
If it is true that Dalzell was in fear of his life if he did not reveal the location of the body, it seems he still wanted to keep it a secret. Who knows why?
What does this all mean? It means, dear friends, that the body of our DK may still be found somewhere, someday, and maybe closer to home.
These things have been known to happen. Consider the recent finding of a skeleton in the Oxford area.
As for the one about the guy who burned an entire human body on two patio grills, stinking up the whole neighborhood, perhaps we need to look more carefully into that.
Special thanks to all I have mentioned for helping me gather this information.
Bill Widman
11:36 AM
Local law enforcement says that the body has been completely destroyed, and there's no need for an expensive and exhaustive search of the landfill.
What makes this story particularly interesting to me is that, mere weeks ago, I have done an investigation of my own concering the possibility of finding the body of our dear DK in a landfill, and about burning bones.
In the confession of Dalzell, he says that he had placed the body in a dumpster in Wilmington. I found it curious that, in all the newspaper stories I've read, I have found no mention of an attempt to find the body in Wilmington. So I decided to look into it.
Contacting the Wilmington Police Dept., I have learned that a dumpster in or near the City of Wilmington, when emptied, has its contents taken to a facility north of the city which has a landfill and an incinerater. (On Hwy 421 N)
It has long been believed by some of us that the body of our dear DK has been incinerated with the Wilmington trash.
I have this friend named Vicki who I talk to on my computer often. When I shared with her the information exchanged with the Wilmington Police Dept. (who were very nice, by the way) she told me that bones don't burn in a trash incinerater. Well, at least not like they do in a crematory.
Now this got me going. I found out soon that the temperature inside a crematory is frightenly high (not to mention the energy used!) at around 1600 to 1800 degrees!
I shared this info with John Allore, and he refered me to the Forensic Anthropology Center in Knoxville, Tennessee. I learned lots of interesting things from the website before making e-mail contact. I learn that it is entirely possible that a body in a dumpster can go from the trash truck to the landfill without anyone's detection. (Usually there will be someone standing behind the truck when it dumps.) Anyone who has witnessed a trash truck picking up a dumpster would understand why the driver would never see what's in there.
So maybe we can still find a body in the landfill? I ask about this, and I'm told the search for human remains in a landfill is an astronomicaly daunting task, but it has been done. I am also told how to find student volunteers to help with the undertaking, should I decide to take it on.
But then, John has another interesting piece of information for me.
It is believed by the Carrboro Police that Dalzell was not telling the truth about where he put the body. In his confession, Dalzell was asked if the dumpster he placed the body in had the letters, "BFI" marked on it's side. He said "yes." Both the Carrboro Police and the Wilmington Police confirm that the City of Wilmington does not contract with this sanitation company, and did not during the year of 1997.
They do, however, serve the Chapel Hill and Carrboro area.
If it is true that Dalzell was in fear of his life if he did not reveal the location of the body, it seems he still wanted to keep it a secret. Who knows why?
What does this all mean? It means, dear friends, that the body of our DK may still be found somewhere, someday, and maybe closer to home.
These things have been known to happen. Consider the recent finding of a skeleton in the Oxford area.
As for the one about the guy who burned an entire human body on two patio grills, stinking up the whole neighborhood, perhaps we need to look more carefully into that.
Special thanks to all I have mentioned for helping me gather this information.
Bill Widman
11:36 AM
After Trial Bummer
Bill W said...
It is important for us to remember that, as far as the law is concerned, Andrew Dalzell is a suspect, and only that, in this case. If you ask me if I believe he is guilty, I would say, "Yes," but that is an opinion, not a fact. Let us be careful we do not get sued.
For several years I have seen my friends gather at the courthouse with signs and banners, talking to reporters, and doing all manner of things to bring publicity to this case.
To many of us, such efforts have gone unrewarded.
But I don't think so.
It seems, to many of us, that someone has literally gotten away with murder, and that can be most discouraging.
But the case is not closed yet.
We have raised our voices high, produced posters and buttons, and now even a website. Let's not end it here. For those who feel that we have done all that we could, and have nothing to show for it, I suggest you start writing.
This site has been open for several months now, and there are still only 4 comments posted in it.
I have seen an impressive show of enthusiasm among many of my closest friends in the Chapel Hill and Carrboro area, and I hope to see it continue. I see no reason why we should give up.
If you are tired of doing the same old thing over and over again, that didn't seem to do very much, then perhaps it's time to try another approach.
While I would strongly discourage getting vigilante about it, let us look for more positive ways to remember our dear friend.
I am sure in my heart we can all do that.
It is important for us to remember that, as far as the law is concerned, Andrew Dalzell is a suspect, and only that, in this case. If you ask me if I believe he is guilty, I would say, "Yes," but that is an opinion, not a fact. Let us be careful we do not get sued.
For several years I have seen my friends gather at the courthouse with signs and banners, talking to reporters, and doing all manner of things to bring publicity to this case.
To many of us, such efforts have gone unrewarded.
But I don't think so.
It seems, to many of us, that someone has literally gotten away with murder, and that can be most discouraging.
But the case is not closed yet.
We have raised our voices high, produced posters and buttons, and now even a website. Let's not end it here. For those who feel that we have done all that we could, and have nothing to show for it, I suggest you start writing.
This site has been open for several months now, and there are still only 4 comments posted in it.
I have seen an impressive show of enthusiasm among many of my closest friends in the Chapel Hill and Carrboro area, and I hope to see it continue. I see no reason why we should give up.
If you are tired of doing the same old thing over and over again, that didn't seem to do very much, then perhaps it's time to try another approach.
While I would strongly discourage getting vigilante about it, let us look for more positive ways to remember our dear friend.
I am sure in my heart we can all do that.
Joy Reports from Confession
joy said...
Today a reliable source let me in on the contents of the confession of Debbie's murder by Andrew Dalzell.
He told how he met her at Sticks and Stones, played some pool, went out for a cig and waited for his "customary 'goodbye hug'" until she came out. He then threw his cig and said "Hey Sweetie, how about my hug?" Debbie was free with her hugs, and stopped between both their cars.
Ken was locking up, and saw Deb and Andrew huggin. He beats himself up about not asking if she was OK. By all appearances she looked fine.
Andrew then waited until no one was around, and put his hand on "her bottom". She slapped him, as was in her character. To her, no meant no even if there had been previous displays of affection. There were separations in her value system. You could be friends without getting sexual.
Someone once told me Deb had been sexually assaulted. Odds were 1 in 4, so that was very likely. I am 1, as are 1 in 4 of my friends. This is why we tended to look out for one another.
Deb wouldn't think twice about setting someone straight about assuming that she would be intimate with them.
At the same time, she didn't like hurting anyone's feelings.
Some characterized this as "teasing" and if you were assumptuous enough to think you were going to get past her boundaries, I guess it was.
Andrew "snapped" when she slapped him. The rejection was too much, and he started to choke her. She did not struggle, she just looked surprised, according to Andrew's confession. She slumped toward his car, and he placed her in his back seat. He picked up her purse and cigarettes and put them in her car.
We knew when her car was found unlocked with her purse on the passenger seat that something was amiss. She ALWAYS locked her purse in her trunk, and kept the keys in her pocket. That way she would never lose her stuff.
He then says he drove to Wal Mart to get a tarp or something to cover her body. He covered her with a flannel shirt and went inside, where he paid $40 cash for a Tool Locker Box. My carpenter friends say that this would be a plastic box with handles on the side. He says he drove to the back of Wal Mart where "the marshalls would not be at that time of night." New Hope Commons Wal Mart has a road all the way around it, and in back are storage trailers and dumpsters. He says that is where he put her in the box and drove onto I-40 toward Wilmington.
There has been much debate over whether to believe him or not. He says that he stopped halfway there to duct-tape the seams of the box to seal the smell of her bowels emptying. Was she still alive? He then says he got to Wilmington and found a strip mall to the left of the road. A dumpster with metal construction debris and drywall was 1/2 full. He says he "reverently, in some small fashion to make up for what he had done" slowly lowered her into the dumpster.
My question is: how can a 19 year old slightly pudgy kid slowly lower close to 150 pounds of body and box into anything? Do I buy this? Why would he confess to part of it and then make some up? Is he trying to save his butt?
He says he and his girlfriend want to start a family and live a normal life. Was that why he had child porn on his computer? There is a "Delete" button on every computer I know. Is it normal to try to talk a 13-year old girl into coming from West Virginia to be adopted by him and his girlfriend? Is this the way to start a family?
Reporters have asked me if I did not think it possible that he was frightened to falsely confessing.
I think that if I did not murder someone I would go to my grave professing my innocence. It is more likely that a person would plead his innocence if he were guilty. Dr. Jeffrey Macdonald comes to mind.
I did not assume Andrew's guilt until I was convinced that he is guilty. This confession seals it for me. I think the people of Stanley, N.C. have a right to know that Andrew now lives among them, leading a "normal" life.
Today a reliable source let me in on the contents of the confession of Debbie's murder by Andrew Dalzell.
He told how he met her at Sticks and Stones, played some pool, went out for a cig and waited for his "customary 'goodbye hug'" until she came out. He then threw his cig and said "Hey Sweetie, how about my hug?" Debbie was free with her hugs, and stopped between both their cars.
Ken was locking up, and saw Deb and Andrew huggin. He beats himself up about not asking if she was OK. By all appearances she looked fine.
Andrew then waited until no one was around, and put his hand on "her bottom". She slapped him, as was in her character. To her, no meant no even if there had been previous displays of affection. There were separations in her value system. You could be friends without getting sexual.
Someone once told me Deb had been sexually assaulted. Odds were 1 in 4, so that was very likely. I am 1, as are 1 in 4 of my friends. This is why we tended to look out for one another.
Deb wouldn't think twice about setting someone straight about assuming that she would be intimate with them.
At the same time, she didn't like hurting anyone's feelings.
Some characterized this as "teasing" and if you were assumptuous enough to think you were going to get past her boundaries, I guess it was.
Andrew "snapped" when she slapped him. The rejection was too much, and he started to choke her. She did not struggle, she just looked surprised, according to Andrew's confession. She slumped toward his car, and he placed her in his back seat. He picked up her purse and cigarettes and put them in her car.
We knew when her car was found unlocked with her purse on the passenger seat that something was amiss. She ALWAYS locked her purse in her trunk, and kept the keys in her pocket. That way she would never lose her stuff.
He then says he drove to Wal Mart to get a tarp or something to cover her body. He covered her with a flannel shirt and went inside, where he paid $40 cash for a Tool Locker Box. My carpenter friends say that this would be a plastic box with handles on the side. He says he drove to the back of Wal Mart where "the marshalls would not be at that time of night." New Hope Commons Wal Mart has a road all the way around it, and in back are storage trailers and dumpsters. He says that is where he put her in the box and drove onto I-40 toward Wilmington.
There has been much debate over whether to believe him or not. He says that he stopped halfway there to duct-tape the seams of the box to seal the smell of her bowels emptying. Was she still alive? He then says he got to Wilmington and found a strip mall to the left of the road. A dumpster with metal construction debris and drywall was 1/2 full. He says he "reverently, in some small fashion to make up for what he had done" slowly lowered her into the dumpster.
My question is: how can a 19 year old slightly pudgy kid slowly lower close to 150 pounds of body and box into anything? Do I buy this? Why would he confess to part of it and then make some up? Is he trying to save his butt?
He says he and his girlfriend want to start a family and live a normal life. Was that why he had child porn on his computer? There is a "Delete" button on every computer I know. Is it normal to try to talk a 13-year old girl into coming from West Virginia to be adopted by him and his girlfriend? Is this the way to start a family?
Reporters have asked me if I did not think it possible that he was frightened to falsely confessing.
I think that if I did not murder someone I would go to my grave professing my innocence. It is more likely that a person would plead his innocence if he were guilty. Dr. Jeffrey Macdonald comes to mind.
I did not assume Andrew's guilt until I was convinced that he is guilty. This confession seals it for me. I think the people of Stanley, N.C. have a right to know that Andrew now lives among them, leading a "normal" life.
Message from Joy
joy said...
Debbie was a friend and sister to me.
We taught kids together, went to concerts, laughed and talked about everything. I miss her daily.
The night she went missing was one of the few Sunday evenings I didn't stop by Sticks and Stones because it was Thanksgiving. She came there to hear the various bands, and because it felt safe. We all felt safe there.
My son went to Culbreth Middle School with Andrew. Our friend Jenny went to church with him, and traveled to do repairs on houses for the elderly. She says that everyone loved his father, and when he died when Andrew was 14, it changed him. He hit a neighborhood girl in the head with a brick during a fit of rage, and the kids left him alone after that.
After Debbie's disappearance, and Andrew's interview with the Carrboro Police, I came upon him and another guy pulling a stunt. I was between shifts as a security guard on campus when I turned the corner at Merritt Mill Road and Cameron Avenue, headed toward the stadium. Someone was lying on the sidewalk in front of a dark green Land Rover parked diagonally on the sidewalk in front of the Physical Plant on Cameron. I pulled over, pulling my radio out and preparing to assess the situation. It looked as if someone had been hit and injured. Andrew, the one lying down, jumped up and his partner jumped out of the Rover. I asked if anyone was hurt. They both said "No, we were just fooling around." I have tried to think of what they were doing besides luring someone into the vehicle. I can't.
Knowing that Andrew and his girlfriend had contacted a 13 year old girl on the internet and tried to convince her to come to Chapel Hill to be "adopted" by them gives me reason to question his future actions. He confessed to killing Debbie whether his confession stood or not. I believe he did. One day perhaps the courts will also.
Debbie was a friend and sister to me.
We taught kids together, went to concerts, laughed and talked about everything. I miss her daily.
The night she went missing was one of the few Sunday evenings I didn't stop by Sticks and Stones because it was Thanksgiving. She came there to hear the various bands, and because it felt safe. We all felt safe there.
My son went to Culbreth Middle School with Andrew. Our friend Jenny went to church with him, and traveled to do repairs on houses for the elderly. She says that everyone loved his father, and when he died when Andrew was 14, it changed him. He hit a neighborhood girl in the head with a brick during a fit of rage, and the kids left him alone after that.
After Debbie's disappearance, and Andrew's interview with the Carrboro Police, I came upon him and another guy pulling a stunt. I was between shifts as a security guard on campus when I turned the corner at Merritt Mill Road and Cameron Avenue, headed toward the stadium. Someone was lying on the sidewalk in front of a dark green Land Rover parked diagonally on the sidewalk in front of the Physical Plant on Cameron. I pulled over, pulling my radio out and preparing to assess the situation. It looked as if someone had been hit and injured. Andrew, the one lying down, jumped up and his partner jumped out of the Rover. I asked if anyone was hurt. They both said "No, we were just fooling around." I have tried to think of what they were doing besides luring someone into the vehicle. I can't.
Knowing that Andrew and his girlfriend had contacted a 13 year old girl on the internet and tried to convince her to come to Chapel Hill to be "adopted" by them gives me reason to question his future actions. He confessed to killing Debbie whether his confession stood or not. I believe he did. One day perhaps the courts will also.
Friday, December 02, 2005
In Loving Memory of Debbie Key
In 1997 our friend Debbie Key was taken from a Carrboro, North Carolina parking lot and never seen again.
Friends of Debbie Key have started a website, http://debbiekey.org.
From the Chapel Hill News:
http://www.chapelhillnews.com/opinion/story/2818020p-9264929c.html
The tragic case of Deborah Leigh Key appeared to reach a dismal end last week, as the district attorney prepared to drop the last remaining charges against the man police say admitted killing her.
That would mean Andrew Dalzell is free and clear. Carrboro police said he told them he had killed her in 1997.
Dalzell had already shed the murder charge; that was dropped earlier this year after a judge ruled that the elaborate scheme Carrboro police used to coax his confession rendered it inadmissible. Key's friends and family hoped that some other unrelated charges -- theft and pornography counts -- might stick.
But on Thursday a judge ruled that the evidence in those charges was also tainted. He tossed the evidence, leaving D.A. Jim Woodall nothing with which to make a case.
Carrboro police had suspected Dalzell in Key's disappearance for years, but had been unable to come up with sufficient evidence to charge him. When an opportunity did present itself last year, it appears they drew up a Hail Mary play; it was a long shot, but it was probably the only shot.
Friends of Debbie Key have started a website, http://debbiekey.org.
From the Chapel Hill News:
http://www.chapelhillnews.com/opinion/story/2818020p-9264929c.html
The tragic case of Deborah Leigh Key appeared to reach a dismal end last week, as the district attorney prepared to drop the last remaining charges against the man police say admitted killing her.
That would mean Andrew Dalzell is free and clear. Carrboro police said he told them he had killed her in 1997.
Dalzell had already shed the murder charge; that was dropped earlier this year after a judge ruled that the elaborate scheme Carrboro police used to coax his confession rendered it inadmissible. Key's friends and family hoped that some other unrelated charges -- theft and pornography counts -- might stick.
But on Thursday a judge ruled that the evidence in those charges was also tainted. He tossed the evidence, leaving D.A. Jim Woodall nothing with which to make a case.
Carrboro police had suspected Dalzell in Key's disappearance for years, but had been unable to come up with sufficient evidence to charge him. When an opportunity did present itself last year, it appears they drew up a Hail Mary play; it was a long shot, but it was probably the only shot.
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